I did not mean to come across so abruptly, I was very upset that Visser
would turn on us, while never asking for us to remove him, I figured that by
provocation, he would reveal his true nature... It took this event to make
me place all the pieces, and figure out what he joined us for....
The Church of the Sons of Yahweh leader excommunicated him, along with
Lindstedt, which I learned recently, for the same back stabbing
behavior... Visser worked with the ANSWP, for quite a while, which
was like a joke that he would accuse me of having Fed-Friends, after being in
that sewer... Before the ANSWP combusted, Visser had been on a very
public war of words with many of their members, and they truly were
jEws posteriors, so I signed Visser in, and used my reputation for "pacifism"
[well documented] to explain to his detractors that they had two options, to
either shut up, or be shut up... They preferred to remain
silent.... I suspect now that Visser also worked against them, in the end,
and used them for promotion... It is a pattern apparently, and when I provoked
him before his new crowd, he even turned on them...
Pastor Visser is a great preacher, and perhaps that is all he should be,
because when it comes to organizations and politics, like the jEw with the bony
finger of accusation, he accuses and manipulates... That seems to be what gets
him in trouble.... A little maturity, and some hard lessons, and people
come back better off...
Speaking of Henry's accusation stating that we do not do anything, well,
soon we will be resurrecting some sort of Radio Network to replace tUrncoat, I
have made contact with most of the people whom were sponsors, owners of radio
transmitters, etc, and we are trying to pick up the pieces.. I figure that will
spread Yahweh's word moreso than throwing some little or
large gathering, I like parties also, but this thing we do is not just
fun and games.... Preach to a few hundred, vs. a few thousand is an
obvious effort worth the undertaking....
As far as the Hal Turner thing, that did take me by surprise, I was talking
to Trip Henderson about it, who was Hal's principal financier, had Hal not been
arrested, this charade would have continued, and more damage done... The
only realistic point that we can make to people is that traitors exist
everywhere, and watch how the government rewards them for their service.. Bill
non-White and Turner will be cellmates soon... Funny thing is that the
people that they went to work against were either truly protected
by Yahweh God, or that clean.. Neither one could get close enough to
anyone of worth, so the jEws lost them somewhere where they cannot speak
any further.. In hindsight, we now know what to look for, opportunists, and
grandstanders....
I have sent this to some other members of the Aryan Nations, and some
affiliates, so they can welcome you, and also, thankyou for the heads
up...
Preferably I would like to leave Visser all by himself, where he can do
what he does.. I hold nothing personal against him, except a minor case of
subversion, no real damage done.... [B List]
Pastor Jay Faber
Aryan Nations Theological Director
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:30
PM
Subject: RE: Re: Hello Pastor
Faber...
|
Anyway...
I'd just like to thank Pastor Faber
for answering my original e-mail and giving me a better understanding as
to what was going on. As for everything else that has transpired within
these back and forth messages ... Aryan Nations Revival is #1, in my
opinion (and the opinion of a good portion of those that most count
within the CI community) when it comes to an organizational entity which
stands for Yahweh and the establishment of His Heavenly Kingdom here on
earth. Aryan Nations Revival seems to now focus more on the quality of
it's membership rather than the quantity, which I believe to be a good
thing. Those who are lukewarm or apostate should be weeded out and
disposed of from within it's ranks if they cannot be successfully
reproved of their own detrimental errors. Aryan Nations Revival must
remain strong in the faith and in it's membership. I thank Yahweh for
the existence of such an organization and it's zealous members,
especially Pastor Jay Faber himself.
I believe that ANR has the
potential now to become even greater than it once was under Pastor
Richard Butler, may he rest in peace. This, however, will take time and
effort to achieve, but it can be done. Let the ANR approach this goal
cautiously so as to not be compromised by those who would wish to
destroy it from the inside out. Yes, I suppose some mistakes have been
made, but they have not been fatal to the ANR, thankfully. May Yahweh
bless the Aryan Nations Revival and strengthen it in order to use it's
membership as His battle axe against His enemies.
4 WORDS - DEATH
TO THE JEW!
A friend of ANR,
-Lenio Q.
Barcelos
--- On Thu, 8/27/09, Pastor Visser
<cpm@covenantpeoplesministry.com> wrote:
From:
Pastor Visser <cpm@covenantpeoplesministry.com>
Subject: RE:
Re: Hello Pastor Faber...
To: "'Jay Faber'"
<PastorJayFaber@msn.com>, "'Lenio Barcelos'"
<elect_soldier@yahoo.com>, "'Eli James'"
<eli-james@sbcglobal.net>, "'Pastor Visser'"
<cpm_visser@walla.com>, "'commander'"
<commander@newsaxon.org>, "'Clifton Emahiser'"
<caemahiser@sbcglobal.net>
Cc: mlindste@mo-net.com
Date:
Thursday, August 27, 2009, 9:26 AM
Sci-Fi
Faber,
Notice
the CC in this response.........
Lindstedt.....
Notice
what the Messiah says? "Go and tell him his fault between thee and him
alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy
brother."
Gossip?
You show me one article, present one sermon by alleged "Pastor"
LIndstedt.....
There’s
THOUSANDS – apparently you even asked Eli to tell ME to remove one
from my forum concerning YOUR silliness, lol. Very jewey.
No
credit here, since Pastor Gullet never stated that your
excommunication was reversed.....
Exactly
– did another man’s “opinion” stop me from preaching? Rest assured -
neither will YOURS.
I’m
on 91.1 WREK FM in Atlanta every weeknight while you’ll never be
anything but a FED informant.
Have
fun,
PV
From: Jay Faber
[mailto:PastorJayFaber@msn.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 27,
2009 2:10 AM
To: Lenio Barcelos; Eli James; Pastor Visser;
Pastor Visser; commander; Clifton Emahiser
Cc:
mlindste@mo-net.com
Subject: Re: Re: Hello Pastor
Faber...
Notice
the CC in this response.........
Lindstedt.....
-----
Original Message -----
Sent:
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:56 AM
Subject:
Re: Re: Hello Pastor Faber...
PJF,
Not even
close – I’ve garnered 100k listeners a week since 2007 (my hits went
DOWN working with the known FED INFORMANT that you brag about
exposing me too), I’ve never said anything about ANR and I CARE LESS
about getting involved in some “counsel “that judges my Christian
kinsfolk.
Christians
do not lie to brothers.... Second, Lindstedt is no Christian, less
more a Pastor, as you agreed to remove him, perhaps, Eli should send
him the copy of your agreement, and decision to list Lindstedt's
quotes for justification...
Gee, the
"Known Fed Informant" has "Pastor" Visser's - Hal_Turner_Spot
1-11 all saved on the website and also on our ghost
site...... Man, all I had to do was listen to you, after
all, you warned me over 11 times that Hal Turner was a
Fed......... I will prostate myself before God, pray for
forgiveness, cut wrists, bull whip, even wear the stiff camel hair
coat reverse of penance, because all 11 times, you warned me, and I
was such a spiritual derelict...
When you
lie, don't give details..... Even the jEws know
that... You knew like Edgar Cayce, you warned me, I
admit.........
OK. Here are
the links
http://AryanNationsRevival.org/ANArchives/hal_turner_01.mp3
http://AryanNationsRevival.org/ANArchives/hal_turner_02.mp3
http://AryanNationsRevival.org/ANArchives/hal_turner_03.mp3
http://AryanNationsRevival.org/ANArchives/hal_turner_04.mp3
http://AryanNationsRevival.org/ANArchives/hal_turner_05.mp3
http://AryanNationsRevival.org/ANArchives/hal_turner_06.mp3
http://AryanNationsRevival.org/ANArchives/hal_turner_07.mp3
http://AryanNationsRevival.org/ANArchives/hal_turner_08.mp3
http://AryanNationsRevival.org/ANArchives/hal_turner_09.mp3
http://AryanNationsRevival.org/ANArchives/hal_turner_10.mp3
http://AryanNationsRevival.org/ANArchives/hal_turner_11.mp3
You are so
proven as my master..... Please send me a lock of hair to
encase in glass and declare your sainthood, and
infallibility........ Can I bear your immaculate
child???? Please!!!!!!!!!!
Such Divine
Intellect, such overbearing Spiritual Power......
Encarta
states that 2 years ago, you had under 5000 hits a month.....That
means unlisted website... I suppose it is a devil's lie,
a snare and a deception..... Damn those jEws of
Encarta... ANR had more than that day 1........ Of
coarse, you made us what we are, my God, how dare us look at
facts.......
Do you
really think you can remove another man’s title of “pastor?”
Yes, and you
did it for me.....No credit here, since Pastor Gullet never stated
that your excommunication was reversed.....
What do
you hope to achieve other than an internet smear campaign against
another Israelite?
Israel means
to Rule with Yahweh, Yahweh is not an opportunist, nor a
liar.......
If
Lindstedt feels he’s a “preacher” that’s between him and Yahweh –
you’re obviously wasting your time with this High School gossip.
Gossip?
You show me one article, present one sermon by alleged "Pastor"
LIndstedt.....
He talks
crap about everyone, supports the weak that agree with him,
does nothing at all positive, unless you are a
kAik.......
Gee, maybe
your opinion about what constitutes a Pastor, is the reason that I
have carried this so far.....
No, Yahweh
gives the Body-Temple-Ministry the authority to cut off, or
correct..... Ecumenical Council is a good term for a Body of Pastors
that decide what qualifies, and what does not.... Your friend,
decided that some "Creatard" deserved Ordination because he shot
some nigger guard at the HolyHoax Museum....
Never bothering to question the belief system... John Hinkley
Jr. Shot President Reagan to meet and copulate with Jodi
Foster.... Shall I ordain him by this standard, and you
approve???
By the way
– I care less if this “Henry” person is gaining listeners from my
flock. I’d HOPE that my people listen to numerous pastors and if I
“lose them” they were never really mine, were they? You, on the
other hand, seemingly feel threatened by others. If they’re better
than us GOD will bless them.
Yahweh
blesses them, that's why they come to the ANR, they pray to Yahweh
for Knowledge, and they receive... Of coarse, Lindstedt is there
with you to Bless them......
I refuse
to get dragged into this silliness
Dragged, you
dragged this query upon yourself by talking shit, and supporting the
Infernal Conception of Prozac
[Alias,
Lindstedt]
– why not
voice your concerns to Lindstedt himself instead of visiting your
personal issues on others? Hal Turner is an admitted FED and frankly
- so are his friends. I have NOTHING for you guys, get it? What you
call “big league” I surpassed years ago.
Convenient
excuse to take the foundation of one ministry, and lie to act like a
victim of oppressive deception... nIggers do that......
Your uploads to our site, state that you not only agreed, but named
your sermons "Hal Turner Spot"
No Pastor,
in the name of Yahweh God, lies.......
Now turn
and attack me some more as I expect for doing the scriptural thing.
Go on and on about how you “made me” (which is laughable). In the
end it doesn’t matter – how DARE you attempt to tell me (or
Lindstedt) how to run our churches? You simply think more highly of
yourself than you should.
In
peace,
PV
There is no
peace with deception, I have proven you a liar, an opportunist, and
further, an ally of a fraud.....
Once again I
state my willingness to undergo inquisition by the established
Ecumenical Council, and I FEAR NOTHING....
I Call for
the Ecumenical Council to not just depose Lindstedt
formally, but also Visser, when lies must be used to
justify cause, right, or divinity, there is no
justification.......
I
Pastor Jay William Faber, Rightfully Ordained, Order upon the
Ecumenical Council that not just Visser, and Lindstedt be placed
upon the potential "chopping block", I also demand that my Pastoral
rank be either justified, or revoked under the same scrutiny as
these others.
Let those
that accuse me, present proof..... Mine is already
presented........
Pastor Jay
W. Faber
Aryan
Nations, Ordained by Pastor Butler, 2001, at 31 years of age...
14 years of study...
<PastorJayFaber@msn.com>
Re:
Hello Pastor Faber...
What
was the concern here was that you disassociated without
informing us, and further, began working against us, as this
e-mail has proven...
As
far as fed harassment, well, welcome to the big
leagues... As you can state that the Turner Network
created some problems, we knew the risk, we
discussed this before we proceeded, and you agreed that it was
worth the risk, and this explains your new 100K listener
base.. The proper thing for you to have done was to
contact us first and express your concerns or
intention... Did you really think that the FBI was
not going to bother you???
Ignoring
e-mails, hanging up the phone, and then posting an alleged
"pastor" as the Aryan Nations, one that you also decided to
dispossess, well, what is one to
believe....
Part
of operating a ministry is to see that all people involved
stay on track, sometimes, part of teaching Theology is keeping
the herd on track... Also be advised, Henry has been
trying to contact anyone associated with you, for the purpose
of subversion....
Since
we have been reaping the fallout from Turner's crash and burn,
I placed our old programs up for a week, and they received
hits over 1,000,000.... Sticking to preaching the
word, well, adding a few million listeners requires an
investment in time and manpower, were getting ready to go
the next leap...
We
are in the process of creating another Network, to absorb the
slack...
My
main concern was that you advised people not to join the
ANR... It is the membership and cooperation of the ANR
that you can thank for your new found success, and it will
keep going foreword.. 100K was a landmark, now we
add a zero and proceed..
You
had nothing to be concerned about with fed questioning and the
Turner Turncoat event, you never even spoke to him, I handled
Turner personally, and exposed myself to the risk, so we could
reach those extra numbers.... Apparently, you are
satisfied with what we reaped for you, and will bite the hands
that created it for you..
-----
Original Message -----
Sent:
Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:04 AM
Subject:
RE: Hello Pastor Faber...
Pastor James and
Faber,
Please
understand that CPM has NO affiliations nor are we responsible
for what certain posters may say on our forums. I say this
because our past "affiliation" with the Turner Radio Network
(and his close associates) has earned us several visits from
the FEDs. Our lack of response on this matter is because we've
chosen to allow the men of Israel to deal with their problems
scripturally and to protect the flock.
Pastor Faber is
certainly welcome to voice his concerns as he has an active
account on the mentioned forums. A simple "report post" could
save us all a lot of time and grief. We'll censor nor ban ANY
man (nor his ministry) for anything less than a death threat.
We believe that Yahweh raises up pastors according to His own
heart and no man has all truth. Because of this - we'll judge
no man.
Regarding this
morning's e-mail; I have NO idea who "Henry" is, I was never a
member of ANSWP (nor UCOY), we garner 100k listeners a WEEK
(and certainly don't need Turner Radio Network for anything)
and such faulty "affiliations" in the past have earned us
mostly grief. I feel we should all focus on Theology over such
petty squabbles and simply refuse to get involved one way or
another.
I respect you
both and I'm looking forward to 999!
War for
Christ,
PV
From:
Jay Faber [mailto:PastorJayFaber@msn.com]
Sent:
Monday, August 24, 2009 11:27 PM
To:
Lenio Barcelos; Eli James; Pastor Visser; Pastor
Visser
Subject:
Re: Hello Pastor Faber...
It
was a joint agreement to remove Lindstedt from the Aryan
Nations, including the input and vote of Pastor Visser, based
upon Lindstedt's lack of credentials, as Pastor Gullet
excommunicated him, for publicly promoting articles about how
non-CI woman were not just available, but suitable for us to
take and rape... Then further, Lindstedt was promoting
the Creator, as Lindstedt titles, "Creatard" that shot
some nigger at the Holyhoax Museum, and called that act worthy
of ordainment....
#1,
Lindstedt lied to us claiming to still be a
pastor....
#2,
Lindstedt in no article ever in any of his listings preached
Identity, he simply ridicules the people that he sees as
adversarial to his objectives, and further, disgraces the
message of Yahweh God by his constant attacks on other
persons, endlessly, without material substance, and without
any Biblical substance....
#3,
There is no "Pastor" Lindstedt.
I
am as surprised to see that one as eloquent in Theology as
Pastor Visser would even continue to entertain Lindstedt after
all of his ramblings.....
Henry,
on the other hand, we discharged because some guy offered him
a place on a high council to be, that claims to be Aryan
Nations, but accepts any person of any belief, as can be seen
on http://aryannations88.com upon
this very premise we left August Kreis, and anyone that places
his hand on the plow and looks back, is unfit..
Yes,
I turned on Henry, with a heavy hand... Yes I turned on
Lindstedt with a heavy hand....
I
have forwarded this e-mail to Pastor Eli James, as we agreed
today that an Ecumenical Council needs to
exist....
My
position is that Lindstedt is no Pastor, and I would like once
and for all, a hearing on this issue.......
Those
that are with Yahweh, are one family, the Aryan Nations
Revival does not support persons that use the name "Pastor",
in title only.......
If
Henry, who is a betrayer, who is covertly talking to
Pastor Visser's people behind his back to sway them, makes
Pastor Visser and I at odds, so be it, I can respect Pastor
Visser, and one of the reasons that I ditched Henry is that he
is sending our members, our contacts and our alliance down the
drain....... Pastor Visser is apparently unaware that Henry
was also going on his website, to betray Pastor Visser as
well....
Lindstedt,
well, if Pastor Visser chooses to endorse a man that he knows
lacks all spirit of Yahweh, let that stand between Pastor
Visser and Yahweh...... It was in agreement between I and
Pastor Visser, that Lindstedt needed to go... Needless
to say, I was surprised to see that Visser had the
Excommunicated Lindstedt on his forum.....
I
call for a hearing as to "'Pastor' Lindstedt's"
Claim..........
I
do not question Pastor Visser's eligibility as a Pastor, but I
question his judgment in friendship...
Henry
called me and made that statement that Pastor Visser had
turned on me, to which, Pastor Visser has made no comment, if
this is the case, I would like to know......
Lenio,
once again, as we read in the New Testament, many Churches
formed, and most were destroyed by Yahweh God as was evident
in the Epistles, for steering away from truth... The Aryan
Nations Revival was founded as an organization with Yahweh
First, and foremost, as we fired August Kreis for blasphemy
and continued the Aryan Nations free from some
infidel.....
I
tried to contact Pastor Visser for some time, apparently you
may be correct....
If
this is whom Visser chooses for an alliance, Henry Stout and
Lindstedt, all I can say is that the company you keep defines
you...... And Yahweh is not part of that two or
three.....
As
far as never wanting to do anything, may I present the website
http://aryannationsrtevival.org now
always listed on the front page of any search engine from
sheer volume of hits....
On
there are over 500 hours of sermons, for audio, many texts,
and foremost, good men, all of whom serve Yahweh
God...... Just because Henry wants to throw National
Events, as we are not ready, and wants me to ask people to
invest thousands of dollars of their hard earned money to
attend events across the country to which we have not
established the numbers to justify, well, I am not going to
ask people to do anything that I would not wish to
attend... Henry wants a party... Lindstedt is
proof that Prozac needs improvement......
Lindstedt
and Henry Stout are not worth the effort, hopefully, Pastor
Visser and I can work this out...
Funny
thing is that as the ANSWP turned on Visser, I signed him as a
member, and then by rather righteous means, made them tuck in
their tails and shut up... I assisted him, I gave him
better than myself on the Turner Network for publicity, and as
our program continued, we reached well over 100,000
listeners.. Et Tu Brutus???
Pastor
Visser, here are my phone numbers
I
deserve an explanation...
Pastor
Eli James, Since you hold rank in the ecumenical council, I
request that alleged "pastor" Lindstedt be
examined
as to whether or not he is a "Pastor"....
Ordained
2001, at 31 years of age, Student of Scripture from 1986 in
CEDS as founded by Bob Miles...
In
all fairness, I will also be fully willing to undergo any
challenge to my Ordination, before this same Ecumenical
council... Maybe more of us need to agree to the same
challenge.......
-----
Original Message -----
Sent:
Sunday, August 23, 2009 9:57 PM
Subject:
Hello Pastor Faber...
Hello
Pastor Faber,
You asked me on AN forums to e-mail
you here so I'm doing so. But I'm not really looking to
talk about the Aryan Front issue in this message
(although I'd still like to know if something could be
done about that.) I was actually wondering if you could
put into perspective for me what exactly is going on
between you, Pastor Visser, Henry, and some others who
apparently have left Aryan Nations Revival. Why all the
hostility towards you and the ANR all of the sudden?
I've already spoken with Henry and his friend John on
newsaxon about this. John basically told me that you
were "talking alot of sh*t about Henry" (those were
John's own words) and that I should stay away from you
and ANR. Henry told me that his reason for leaving was
because he was fed up with you never wanting to do
anything. I have already known about your disassociation
with Pastor Lindstedt for about a month now based on a
thread on his website that I happened to come across and
I agree with your reasons for wanting to distance
yourself from him based on what I read there. Incase you
are not aware of what Pastor Lindstedt had to say about
you and the ANR on this thread, then here it is...
http://whitenationalist.org/forum/showthread.php?t=353
I feel it should be brought to your
attention incase you aren't already aware of it. Now,
about Henry and the others ... I haven't taken to heart
what he and his friend said because I they never really
gave me in a real good reason for leaving ANR. As far as
Pastor Visser goes ... I'm completely in the dark on
that one. If you have the time and are willing to inform
me of what's going on concerning this issue I would very
much like to here things from your side, Pastor.
4
WORDS
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